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THANKS OF A GRATEFUL NATION

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5-31-99

Did no one watch the first episode of this film shown last night on NBC? Part II will be shown this evening at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. Although the producers have obviously fictionalized some of the film, it is interspersed with comments from actual ill veterans as well as remarks from politicians, Rep. Chris Shays for one. I found the film to be very poignant and troubling, that the United States of America could once again ignore the plight of those who serve her. That this film is shown on Memorial Day weekend makes it more important that we who feel so strongly about our Constitution, continue the fight to rid our government of the likes of Bill Clinton and his lackeys, especially those in the Veterans Administration.


 


Posted by:
Max Monroe (maxmon@citcom.net)
 05/31/1999 06:48:50 PDT
#1

Max Monroe
didn't see it, will try again...BTTT
From: knarf (fgapa@wpcd.com)
 05/31/1999 07:01:37 PDT
#2

Max Monroe
I tried to post at the start of the movie. One of my friends went to the gulf as an MP from Connecticut. He sprayed the raqis with a pesticide for 12 hours a day during the war, without a respirator. He came back and within 3 years was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. His wife fought for survivor's benefits, and the Army refused. She has now become one of the leading Gulf War Spokespersons, Diane Dulka. Her late husband was a year ahead of me in Windsor Locks High in CT, and Diane was a year behind. I know them both. Since she made the TV so much around here, I became involved in helping her whenever I can. I even introduced her to her new husband, Kyle Bittner, USMC Scout Sniper!

Pay attention to the REAL people who appear in this, Diane has already been shown in the first episode, and I think she has one more appearance. Ted Danson may be a liberal, but he does an excellent performance in this, and it is the truth. One of the most pleasing things I saw was the showing of a Born-Again Christian as a compassionate person, and not in an insulting way at all. For that, Steve Weber is a friend forever.

Keep in mind here, that the symptoms shown, and the stories told, are a conglomeration of many stories. The family scenes with Jennifer Jason Leigh and her husband, (They played the Small's), are based on many veteran's stories, Diane's and Joe Dulka's also. It is not done to have explicit sex at all, it is the truth about what spouses went through: 2 the burning sex, burning semen, painful urinations, rashes given to spouses who NEVER WENT TO THE GULF.

An interesting note, I helped Diane move to her new location. I was the one who moved her late husbands sea-bag. (He was Army, Duffel Bag). In 2 weeks immediately after when I started getting sick, I was diagnosed with a mycoplasma infection in my lungs. I never told the doctor what I did, cause I didn't connect the two events, the sickness, and my handling Gulf War Physical Material. It came to mind when the infection didn't respond to anti-biotics. The doctor told me, "Well, it must be some kind of mycoplasma", and gave me BIAXIN, the most favored anti-biotic against mycoplasmas. It is a known fact among Gulf War Vets that Mycoplasma are one of the most suspected infections that Gulf War vets suffer from. And I got it from just handling Joey's Duffel bag!

I still can't convince her to throw it out, it is one of her last remembrances of her late husband who she loved dearly.

For the record, the Army finally recognized she had a valid claim, and has now granted her survivor's benefits for herself, her daughter, and her gulf-war-birth-defected-son, Joey Jr.
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
05/31/1999 07:36:20 PDT
  #3

Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 
Subject: you knew Diane and Joey Dulka well?

Do you know what the pesticide was that he was spraying for 12 hours?
 
I know someone as a young man (now 62) who  sprayed apple orchards for a whole couple of days until he was drenched in it... and it hasn't cause the symptoms such as GWS  (His doctor said he was lucky to be alive)
 
I do know of a pesticide/solvent however, that does cause all the symptoms of GWS and I believe it should be banned:
 
 
 
 
Is Diane Dulka still a spokes person for Gulf War Syndrome issues?
 
Is there any public info on what her son had?
 
If I am right, then our current military is also being poisoned by this chemical.
 
Margaret Diann
PO Box 233
Valdez, AK 99686
 
1-888-853-5333  Alaska time

knarf   To #2
Memorial Day rememberance of Joe Dulka, US Army
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
 05/31/1999 07:36:53 PDT
#4

knarf  to #2
Memorial Day rememberance of Joe Dulka, US Army
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
 05/31/1999 07:36:54 PDT
#5 www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a375293420edc.htm#5

RaceBannon  to #4
What an inspiring story you tell! I neglected to mention Rep. Steve Buyer (sp) being shown testifying and lining up all the bottles of pills he had to take because of his service in the Gulf War. You're absolutely right about Ted Danson. I've always considered him to be a shallow, far left liberal, but his performance is truly wonderful. I sure wish we had more responses on this post from Freepers. Personal stories like yours bring it (the shameful neglect) to the forefront.
From: Max Monroe (maxmon@citcom.net)
 05/31/1999 11:42:32 PDT
#6

To: Max Monroe
Bump for the fallen
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
05/31/1999 15:43:43 PDT
#7

To: Max Monroe  #6
Bump for the fallen
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
05/31/1999 15:51:15 PDT
  #8

To: RaceBannon
Its on now!!!!!
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
 05/31/1999 18:15:35 PDT
#9

 RaceBannon  to #8
Its on now!!!!!
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
05/31/1999 18:15:36 PDT
#10

RaceBannon #8
Its on now!!!!!
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
 05/31/1999 18:15:37 PDT
#11

To: RaceBannon #8
Its on now!!!!!
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
 05/31/1999 18:15:38 PDT
#12

 RaceBannon
Its on now!!!!!
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
 05/31/1999 18:15:41 PDT
#13

RaceBannon
I guess no one cared.
From: Max Monroe (maxmon@citcom.net)
 06/01/1999 03:46:41 PDT
#14

 To Max Monroe
It seems to be a dead issue. That and many have been brainwashed to think it was an anti-American show. It was not. It was the truth. The scene where the Steve Weber character had all his friends come by to say goodbye, and to let go, it was ok to die, that was based on Joe Dulka's friends coming to tell him to give up and let go. (His pancreatic cancer was proven to be environmentally caused during the biopsy.) It should have been a sad movie, but, the commercials kind of didn't help. The original movie was made for Showtime, and I was fortunate enough to se a pre-screening show at a local hotel put on by Showtime. Us Vets, those like me and Gulf Vets there, there was not a dry eye in the house. Diane got to go to the New York City showing right before the nationwide release on Showtime, and met Ted Dansen, Brian Dennehy. She said Ted Dansen was a great guy, but that Brian Dennehy was too drunk, and didn't even know who he was talking to. She introduced herself, and he said, Who? When she explained, he said, Well, I guess I should be paying better attention, and then walked away from her!
From: RaceBannon (jimban@snet.net)
06/01/1999 03:55:24 PDT
  #15

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RE:  "Thanks of a Grateful Nation"
 
Ask for another showing of it & see if we can get it made in DVD

Was shown over Memorial Day in 2 parts, 1999

None of the above e-mails work.  I did find Diane Dulka's story here, though  http://www.odssa.com/cleft.htm

Diane Gates Dulka welcomes contact with any persons who were involved in the Gulf Conflict . She can be reached at 17 Midland Road, Windsor Locks, CT, 06096

She offers:  "If you are a Gulf Veteran who is sick or have a Gulf Child with a birth defect and are in need of assistance or would just like a shoulder, please call me at 860-623-1456. I will be happy to help in any way I can."

  DoD

  Honor the Contract

    This article was reprinted with permission from Widesmiles.org.
    GULF WAR HELL
    by: Diane Gates Dulka   approx March, 1995

    Let me begin at the beginning so you can better understand why I feel compelled to write. Five years ago yesterday my hell began. That was the day the Gulf War began. My husband Joe was a National Guardsman with the 143rd MP Company here in Connecticut. His unit was activated and sent to Saudi to guard Iraq POW's.

    He was gone 4 months. I was left home with our then 4-year-old daughter, Lindsay. I did well when Joe was away. I held down the fort and managed to get through the long days and nights by forming support groups and networking with other wives. When Joe returned he received a hero's welcome.

    We had been trying to have another baby since my daughter was two, but we had not been successful. I had one blocked tube and my ovulation time and uterus were not working on the same clock. I got pregnant one month after my husband's return from the Gulf. I was so happy. This child was a miracle. A gift from God.

    When Joey III was born, he was born with a cleft lip and palate. I had never seen a child with a cleft, but I had heard of it and knew it could be repaired. The cleft never really bothered me. This child was a gift from God. Who was I to question what God had sent me?

    When Joey was first born I was visited by a representative from a local cleft palate team. She was just wonderful. I connected with her instantly. She explained everything that would be done and left me with a complete feeling of confidence and ease to handle the situation.

    Unfortunately, Joey's cleft became the least of my concerns. I have a bleeding disorder called ITP. Joey was born with this disorder. He was born with 11,000,000 platelets. Normal range is between 150,000,000 and 300,000,000 platelets. He was treated with steroids and blood transfusions. After 40 days, children born with this condition return to normal. Those first 40 days with Joey were touch and go.

    During this time I discovered that my husband didn't have a clue as to how to handle my son's cleft. He blamed himself and suspected that something had caused this that he had been exposed to in the Gulf.

    I never understood this self-blame. I never placed blame on anyone, including myself. I believed that God had sent me this child because He knew I could handle it, and I considered it a challenge. When Joey gained weight and thrived I was on a cloud!

    I soon learned that my husband was so self-absorbed in guilt and shame that he couldn't bring himself to even feed his son. I had to take total control of Joey's care and feedings. I learned to be even more independent than I had been when my husband was away at the Gulf. Little did I know this was God's way of prepping me for more heartache.

    After my son's second surgery, my marriage began to hit rocky points. I grew tired of doing it all with no support from my husband. My husband was slowly becoming a stranger. He was turning into a depressed, miserable man. Where did my husband go?

    I soon found out. After 8 months of deteriorating health my husband was diagnosed with advanced pancreatic cancer. He was given 3 to 6 months to live. He was 37 years old.

    The day this happened, the light came on for me. All my questions were answered. This explained why my husband was acting so strange. When Joey learned his fate, everything became clear to him - - why he couldn't be who he was and why he would feel like he had no control over the way he was acting. In a strange way, it was a relief to know that our marriage was as good as I remember and there really was a "why". It wasn't us to blame, it was the cancer that changed this man and strained our relationship.

    I brought my husband home in June 1994 and cared for him in our home. He died on August 28, 1994. We were blessed with some time to say the things to each other that people never get to and regret it later. The time that we had gave us all time to absorb what was happening.

    After Joe died I began to investigate the rumors I had been hearing about the Gulf Veterans. In a very short time I learned that 85% of the veterans were sick. Cancer rates were way too high and according to the Association of Birth Defects in Florida, Clefts and other birth defects were higher than normal among Gulf Veterans.

    I quickly became a Veteran Activist. The Veteran Administration has denied my survivor's benefits three times and continues to turn away its Gulf Veterans and their families. I have become very outspoken on this issue. Over the past year and a half since Joe's death I have been to Washington twice to speak before the Presidential Committee on Gulf War Syndrome, and the Scientific Committee on Gulf War Syndrome, and became President of the Gulf War Veterans of New England, CT chapter. I am also trying to raise funds for a program designed to eliminate from the body the toxins and chemicals these veterans were exposed to. They have had great success in treating many Vietnam Veterans and others who were exposed to pesticides and job related chemical accidents.

    No, I have not buried my grief in a cause. I have turned my anger into motivation. I have used this situation to try to do something good. It would serve no purpose to allow myself to sink into a deep depression. I have grown and learned more during the past few years than most people have in a lifetime.

    I returned to school last summer. During my class I met the Director of the School. After I completed my class, the Director asked me to become the assistant of the school. It is a great opportunity for me. I usually worked part-time when my children were born so I could devote my time to my family. I am starting to feel comfortable being alone and I know now that God was preparing me slowly over the last 5 years for this new life.

    I have now learned to look at whatever comes my way as a new challenge. My daughter Lindsay, now nine, keeps me running with her activities. My son keeps me going with the sparkle in his eyes. Each new sound he tries in speech therapy he tries with gusto and quite often I look to him for my inspiration. He is now almost four years old and in nursery school and doing well.

    When I read WIDE SMILES I usually wind up in tears reading about these children. These are not tears of sorrow, they are tears of joy. All of these children are truly gifts from God. They bring us tears and joy. I consider it an honor to have been chosen to be the recipient of such a beautiful child. 

Permission granted to repost.  12-01-03  JoSmiles@aol.com  I am  most certain Diane would not have a problem with you using her story.  Nor would i.   Joanne

http://www.odssa.com/dodnci.htm

www.FreeRepublic.com/forum/a375293420edc.htm

 

 
To: dianedulka@aol.com

8 Frances Lane

Windsor Locks

623-1456 Board of Education

 

Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 5:13 AM
To Diane Dulka:  How is your family now?
 
I wanted to ask you if your husband also had some of these other symptoms?
 
 
I have been studying a chemical that causes all the symptoms of Gulf War Syndrome... all by itself.  I wanted to know if there were other symptoms that your husband Joey had, or did he just have pancreatic cancer?
 
 
Sincerely,
Margaret Diann
PO Box 233
Valdez, AK 99686
 
1-888-853-5333
 
I would like to know, also, if the movie, "Thanks of a Grateful Nation" could be rerun by NBC & Showtime, and if it could be made into a DVD?

 

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  http://www.eonline.com/Facts/Movies/0,60,67753,00.html

Thanks of a Grateful Nation
 
Category: Drama
Director: Rod Holcomb
Cast: Jennifer Jason Leigh, Ted Danson, Brian Dennehy, Marg Helgenberger, Steven Weber, Matt Keeslar
Running Time: 3 hr 2 mins
Summary:
A fact-based account of the experiences of veterans of the Gulf War, some of whom returned with a mysterious malady
 

 


Connecticut

Gulf War Veterans of New England, CT Chapter
Contact: Diane Dulka
Voice: (860) 623-1456
FAX: (860) 292-1849
E-mail: DIANEDULKA@aol.com

How would the Gulf War Syndrome Vets, as a whole, fill out this chart?  *

I would also like to see the movie, "Thanks of a Grateful Nation"  Any way to get a DVD made of it?
 
Margaret Diann
PO Box 233, Valdez, AK 99686  1-888-853-5333
 
 
Why I think
the chemical of Harm to the Exxon Valdez oil spill cleanup workers,
was the same chemical that harmed the Gulf War Vets -
 
 
 
Both of the above are off of this page,

Added 12-24-03

How to find a doctor interested?