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ddgarzilla
Administrator
January 14, 2004   
Anyone on here having bladder problems. Feeling like you have to urinate all the time, leakage from your bladder in small amounts which you cant control, feeling like you gottta go but you don't

Anyway, let me know.

Gale
Administrator
January 14, 2004     
How long have you been bothered by this, DD? Have you been seen by your Dr about it?
ddgarzilla
Administrator
January 15, 2004  
I have noticed this for about a month. Maybe longer. Have to urinate more than before.

Will be checked for diabetes tomorrow morning. Apparently when I went to the Dr. today they said my sugar was high. So will see the doctor tomorrow at 8 am.

Had to get assertive because they wanted to check for std and acted like I didn't know what I was asking to be tested for. Kind of stupid to want to test for std since I am alone and aint doing a thing.

Did check the prostate and it hurt. So apparently it might be inflamed. So we shall see.

Hawk
Junior Member
January 15, 2004           
had a similar problem, except the leakage
found out i was diabetic. frequent urination is one of the symptoms, also increased thirst, good luck with the blood test make sure they do a 90 average. it should be a fasting test with nothing to eat for 12 hours before.
any other Gulf vets now diabetic?
nmsurvey1
Member
January 15, 2004             
I was diagnosed as diabetic December 2002, had to quit drinking alcohol. Last year, enlarged prostate also blockage of the urinary tract (had a urinary tract infection while over there). Arthritis in the knees, elbows, wrists, a bad back and hip. Just falling apart.
Mother Margaret
Moderator
January 15, 2004            
Sounds like a combination of two things ... elevated blood sugar that looks like regular diabetes, may, however, be a symptom of endocrine disruption (which pesticides are known to do) valdezlink.com/gwv/complete.htm#endocrine

The other would be to check kidney function; doesn't that sound like a symptom of kidney. Another thing that the eythylene glycol ethers do is to cause kidney damage (even failure) and liver damage; but blood damage first.

Ask the doctors how your blood is doing valdezlink.com/poages/computer_car.htm#blood

If you saw the doctor today; it probably isn't too late to ask for some of these extra tests with the blood sample they just took.

ddgarzilla
Administrator
 January 16, 2004               
I went to take the blood glucose tolerance test today.

To answer your question he was concerned about the kidneys.

BUt I am starting to have another problem and that is sharp pains eminating every now and then from different parts up and down my spine.

genie
Junior Member
January 16, 2004               
I have had my difficulties with the bladder incontinence, can't hold my urine, and also having bouts of needing to urinate, when in fact I can't go. I was told that my problem was due to the medication I was on. I really don't know though. I haven't been on the Zoloft & Sudafed together in quite some time now, and I still have this problem. Let us know what they find out ddgarzilla. I would be interested in knowing myself what could cause this.

As far as your back pain problem, and it can become a serious problem if not treated properly, let us also know what they find. I've been dealing with my back pain issue forever it seems. Just another label it seems, chronic lumbar syndrome. Still no definite answers for me ddgarzilla, but am always searching. I wish that I knew what was truly going on with the chronic muscle spasms in my back. Good luck in your search for some answers.

bigquest
Junior Member
 January 16, 2004              
I too have the frequent urination problem but I already have been diagnosed with DMII. I have been combing the boards for other GW Vets who also may now be diabetic. I'm the only one in my family with it, so I'm wondering if it is GWS related.
Gale
Administrator
January 16, 2004           
Well, it took over 30 years for the VA to connect diabetes with exposure to Agent Orange, so please don't hold your breath before they eventually connect it with our exposures!
Hawk
Junior Member
January 16, 2004            
bigquest, I haven't heard anything about DMII being service connected but who knows, as far as your search for other gulf war vets with diabetes you can add me to your list, but I do have some family history.
Mother Margaret
Moderator
January 16, 2004            
Did you know that jet fuel was added to the dioxin mix during the Vietnam war? I just learned that recently http://www.valdezlink.com/pf_jetfuel-5.htm#col I suspect JP-5 of having the chemical of concern or some 'pesticide' It is labeled as a pesticide, believe it or not.

Yes, abnormal blood sugar (high or low) is part of endocrine disruption which is what I believe Gulf War Syndrome vets are dealing with valdezlink.com/health_changes.htm valdezlink.com/scenario.htm valdezlink.com/gwv/complete.htm#endocrine

My question, "If high blood sugar and high blood pressure are a result of a chemical exposure that causes endocrine disruption, is it treated in a different manner?

Is there an non-difficult way to test for bone cancer? What are the symptoms, medically?

valdezlink.com/no_help.htm

BigL63
Member
January 17, 2004             
Hello DD and all,
Garry has had this problem ongoing for over a year now and the VA PC provider that he has and the Neurologist have both told us that this is (at least in his case) caused by the nerve damage and scar tissue in his back (linking it to his DDD &DJD).
Both docs explained that when the nerve damage is extensive that this will happen over a period of time, they did tell him that if it became more severe they would think about doing surgery to see if they could correct it, but not until it was much more severe because the surgery is not always successful. At the time both docs also mentioned a mass on his testes, but seemed to downplay any significant worry of this being possibly connected. Hope this helps.
How did the test results go or will it take awhile to get them back? Take care Leslie
Mother Margaret
Moderator
January 17, 2004            
I say get a second opinion!

In fact, see a urologist

& for the mass in testes - A biopsy!

Don't delay

This neurosurgeon is in WA DC, I believe. He beat prostate cancer & said he wanted to help in future using less cutting and radiating. Dr. Ben Carson would be a good man to have on your team! http://www.valdezlink.com/dr_ben_carson.htm

marky-mark
Member
January 18, 2004            
This problems started for me about a year ago, after I pee, I keep on going after I'm done, I'm not talking about the normal "you can shake and dance, but the last drop always ends up in your pants" type leakage, I go quite a bit, enough to make it look as if I peed my pants a little. I also have the problem of not being able to go when I feel the need to. I've stood at the toilet for as much as 30 minutes before not being able to go, even running the water in the sink etc. to try and coax it out, and it just doesn't work sometimes. The VA docs say medications, but who the heck knows? It's just another symptom to add to the already long list of problems that seem to be getting progressively worse.
persgulf
Member
 January 18, 2004               
i know the feeling , marky-mark
ive had my protate cked at the va and they say nothing is wrong, my civilian doc says its soft and put me on antibiotics, still have trouble though, the last drops always end up running down my leg
genie
Junior Member
  January 19, 2004               
The last two posts there actually got me cracking up at this hour. Well, chuckling & smiling anyhow. Good thing nobody’s up around here.

I just wanted to mention that I did see the rehab-medicine doc about this a few years back, and he indicated that as long as I don't pee myself when I’m sleeping, went the bed, then there is nothing to worry about. He said the time to start worrying about this type of problem is when that occurs. So I've just learned to live with this. You know, like not trying to hold it too long. So with the first indication I have to go, I go, but then sometimes that leaves me with the other problem of not being able to go at all. So it’s just another one of those damned if I do or damned if I don't situations for me. Majority of the time I'm saying that little ditty I heard on the TV to myself "…Gotta go, gotta go, gotta go right now...” Better safe than sorry.

ddgarzilla
Administrator
January 19, 2004              
Went to the emergency room last night.

Because I couldn't stop urinating.

almost like my urethra was a stinking catheter.

Anyway,

they checked for again STDs and Urinary tract infection. I told them that my hoo ha was not engaging in any funny business with hee hees, but they still checked anyway. Negative for an infection or std. I could have told them that.

thinks it is related to diabetes, checked my blood sugar again but failed to confirm I have diabetes-boy- anyway- also said something about epilepsy - I have temporal lobe epilepsy.

diagnosis was dysuria (painful urination)- wasn't painful I just have to go constantly, painful in the bladder area though.

and

seizure not otherwise specified

and referred me to a neurologist and a urologist and a diabetic doctor.

boy this partial epilepsy sure has me wondering

Pam
Member
January 19, 2004               
As stupid as this may sound, sometimes a good chiropractor can cure you. If all else fails, try that.
genie
Junior Member
 January 20, 2004               
ddgarzilla, now you got me cracking up with that comment about "...my hoo ha was not engaging in any funny business with hee hees..." What the hell does that mean anyway??? Just kidding!!! I think I got this one figured out on my own...self-exclamatory, I believe. (Ha! Ha!)

Hope your feeling better today dd. I know I'm OK and just hoping your OK too. Take care my friend.

Keith
Member
January 20, 2004              
I've had the same problem in that after I stop peeing I always leave a little in the underwear, sometimes much worse. Also it burns to pee at times not as bad as the bad STD but discomfort. But I started having kidney stone problems in 98, seem to always have a couple in the right kidney I carry around with me. Just always thought they was linked and thought no more of it till reading some of these post. Always remembered the saying " if you shake it more than once you're playing with it" well I shake it more than I would tell anyone, out of fear of the "saying".
As for the back, I can bear the knee, elbow, ankle joint pains but for over a year it has been in the lower back and neck and this was one of the things that led to my quitting working. I tell them it feels as if I've injured my lower back from lifting, the docs at VA say its my Arthralga and won't even do a MRI. The pain sometimes is if I'm passing a kidney stone. Maybe they won't MRI because the X-rays are always ok. Too weird we suffer from many of the same things and don't even know it till we read posts on this board. All I can hope is that GOD will serve justice to those who know more and say less or nothing or lie, though I would like to see it done here on Earth.
ddgarzilla
Administrator
January 20, 2004               
Thanks for the replies.

Been one heck of a month.

Strange having these types of problems.

Anyway always thought only when I became an old codger would I then be having these types of problems.

Froggy
Junior Member
January 20, 2004            
SO many times have I almost posted on this and then decided not to out of embarrassment. I too have the have-to-go feeling and only a little comes out, or the leakage that has stained every pair of skivvies I own. Occasionally I get pain during and after urination that is very discomforting, feels like a burning in my urethra. I've been checked for STD's kidney stones and all show negative.
Jay
Member
 January 21, 2004              
Long time no talk, O' emperor of the dark side.

My penis sucks, my bladder sucks, my urinary track is all but a useless bodily organ to me. Do you know how many times i have been put on a catheter and wore a bag? (that was rhetorical Lord Garzilla).

You are not alone my friend. My only joy is that sometimes it actually works at the most important time... wink, wink. I need the blue pill!

i will tell you that i have to pee about 30 times a day. Any burning or blood discharge from the area might have to do with scar tissue that is built up inside. Cuts in the big boy hurt.

Get well soon...or weller...does that make sense..wait...okay never mind. bye

ddgarzilla
Administrator
January 21, 2004              
May the forces be with you my friend and may the light so shone that you remember it is the force of good on whose side I am on.

Yeah but with all of the problems i have physically sometimes I wonder.

Live long and prosper, oh mighty luke.

oh yeah wrong show

SikRik
Junior Member
January 27, 2004          
Have had the same problems... 2 cystoscopies in the past 9 years and a 3rd one day after tomorrow. The Urologists blame it on the depression medication and the shrinks deny it. My joint pains seem to feel better when I drink my 8 to 10 glasses of water each day, however, 8 to 10 glasses a day equates to about 40 to 50 trips to the bathroom. I had to quit my federal job because I couldn't take running to the bathroom every 20 minutes. My work was behind and I was having problems staying focused not to mentioned being logged off the system and having to re-login each time.
Mother Margaret
Moderator
January 29, 2004           
Quote: "I would like to see it done here on Earth." Me too

Hello all

Back pain (that is sometimes indication of kidney problems isn't it?) Pain in the back of the head/neck? Could that be where the pituitary is? I've gathered some info on the headaches from your group and the EVOS group who may have both been affected by this solvent/pesticide/poison

Consider this research I suggest asking your doctor for the kidney and liver function tests along with the 'retic' ratio and comments of a lab tech on the red blood cells next time you have a blood test ... or especially if you have the multiple symptoms that this chemical causes (pretty much what's become known as 'gulf war syndrome' symptoms)

If all doctors would routinely check these for anyone with unexplained fatigue, this whole issue could have been accurately diagnosed 50 years ago; however, still the secondary symptoms are getting all the blame/credit.

PS Gale, is it true they are connecting dioxin to diabetes? One of the Patriots shared with me that military in Viet Nam days mixed Jet Fuel 5 with dioxin so that it would stick on the leaves. I have a theory that Jet Fuels may have the same chemical of concern I have studied: ethylene glycol monobutyl ether

Pesticides cause endocrine disruption.  Gulf War Troops have been exposed to (2-butoxyethanol and diethylene glycol monobutyl ether) These were tested by EPA for it.

These are listed as solvents the Gulf War Troops 1990-1991 were exposed to


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